Trickier Rule Clarifications

[David]

I don't know what you mean by multiples Bob.

Once you know the minimum amount, you can then bet whatever you want over that.

[Bob B]

I don't know what you mean by multiples Bob.

Once you know the minimum amount, you can then bet whatever you want over that.

White flag waving, white flag waving If I have pocket Jacks I wanna raise to eliminate the field and if I have pocket aces I'm just gonna push anyway and hopefully have heads up!!

Move on nothing to see here, LOL.

[Paul]

WOW.... Cant believe i missed this one

I was always under the assumption that it was 50% so if i had aces on an aggressive table and i was UTG i would limp wait for a raiser and then shove ~ online poker you are allowed to do this but it appears not in 888pl

So the situations is

Blinds 1000/2000
I limp for 2000 UTG and I get 3 more followers then SB goes all in for 3500 on online poker you would be allowed to Reshove but in 888pl you can only flat call because 888pl runs on the 100% rule

If Small blind only Flat called and then pushed 1500 on the flop then you have the option to call the 1500 only but if someone has decided to protect his hand then the minimum raise is 3500 which is the bet plus minimum raise which the the BB At the time

I personally like the 50% rule and I have told everyone this rule at my events since the time i started and I havent had it come up since the discussion with Garth and the only reason i mentioned it was i was overruled at a A.P.L event from a Casion worker ....But when i have had to make a ruling ill have to change it the 100% rule and hopefully not look like an idiot but if 888.com is running there tournaments like that i agree we should keep it completly the same but until we have been instructed it stands at 100%

[Snapple]

lets say the blinds are 3000/6000

if someone throws 2x5000 chips into the pot without declaring their action, then that is more than 50% of a min raise, and their raise must be taken to 12000, not a call. this is what pete is talking about, and this is a different rule.

if this player is all in however for 10000, this doesn't constitute a legal raise, and betting is closed for all previous players to act.

so my understanding is that a legal raise is in fact 1BB, but if you put more than 50% of a raise in the pot without declaration, then your bet must be taken up to the legal raise.

two separate rules here.

If blinds are 3k/6k and someone throws in 2x5k chips it is just a call, It still constitutes an overchip unless they announce raise.

So, if the player b4 me goes allin with lesas than 2 X BB and I was next in line to consider my action and I wanted to raise would the minimum raise be 2 X BB or 2 X ALLIN bet?

In regards to Bob's question, the general rule is, If someone is all in for less than 50% of a legal raise, the minimum raise still applies, however if someone is allin for more than 50% of a legal raise, then the minimum raise becomes, the minimum raise plus the all in bet.
For example: Example1 blinds are 400/800, Player A declares they are allin for 1100, Player B wants to raise the minimum he may raise to 1600 as a legal completed raise. (less than 50% of legal raise, minimum raise still applies)

Example2 Same blinds, Player A raises to 1500 allin, Player B wants to make a minimum raise the raise now stands at 2300, Player A has raised 700 so therefore Player B has to raise to a minimum of 2300.

Hope this answers some of the questions.

[bennymacca]

If blinds are 3k/6k and someone throws in 2x5k chips it is just a call, It still constitutes an overchip unless they announce raise.

this is an interesting one.

i would probably make them just call here though, as the overchip would be one of those 5K chips.

if they were a beginner that was unaware that the min legal raise was to 12K (happens all the time) then i would let them min raise it.