Checking down a dry side pot......

[BigPete33]

what's with the bluffing aspect? I'm mainly talking about playing it normally which may or may not include bluffing. I personally bluff very little as it is.

[Scotty]

I think we're all working on the assupmton of a main pot being locked preflop, and also that is is a relatively small one. How you approach a dry side pot changes completely when the locked pot is sizeable, eg a 4K locked main pot at 200/400 blinds, or a locked main pot that is also large, but is not created until the flop betting round, or possibly turn round.

[David]

I personally bluff very little as it is.

Stop bluffing.

[Des]

but you are talking about betting AK post flop when you haven't hit a pair or draw

isnt that a semibluff at best?

if you read my earlier posts... if you've MADE and HAND then its OK to bet... but the hand should be decent... like top pair good kicker or better

like if you flop a flush... bet away, as you have made a hand

the checking down aspect is more when you havent made a good hand... or something mediochre like middle or bottom pair

[BigPete33]

I understood what you were saying, I just don't agree

I'd still like to hear from someone that thinks a dry side pot should almost always be checked down (regardless of if you have hit or not), I know there's players that whine about this (not necessarily NPL players). I'm curious to know what makes them believe this, because I can't for the life of me see the merit in it.

[Des]

yeh it shouldnt be checked down 100% of the time... people who think that do not understand the concept

if you have a full house... you might as well try and get some added value from it

if you have ace high, you might as well check it down to see if you can improve.. if you hit your ace on the turn, and theres no flush or str8 draws... then bet too

[David]

All in all, it's not ETTIQUITE - it's tactics.

[Des]

All in all, it's not ETTIQUITE - it's tactics.

True!! ganging up on a short stack to get them out, thus improving your chance of getting to the points

[BigPete33]

You're right you know, it's etiquette

[bennymacca]

yeh it shouldnt be checked down 100% of the time... people who think that do not understand the concept

if you have a full house... you might as well try and get some added value from it

if you have ace high, you might as well check it down to see if you can improve.. if you hit your ace on the turn, and theres no flush or str8 draws... then bet too

isnt this just playing poker? what you have described here is a situation that would occur regardless of whether there is a bystander already all in.

similarly, firing a bluff into the mix is also ok - as long as your prepared to turn them over at showdown.

a semibluff with AK post flop - whats wrong with that?

i understand what you are saying though - two lots of crap cards have more opportunity to take out the short stack than one.

but this means that you are potentially giving chips to the other guy that is not all in for free. this could be dangerous - i dont like giving anything away for free